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LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) vs. SSJ Goku (Buu Saga)
Topic Started: Sep 17 2011, 04:33 AM (2,587 Views)
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After training in the afterlife for seven years, how does Goku do against Broly?
Edited by NaitoMaito, Sep 17 2011, 04:34 AM.
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He still loses just as badly.
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^ Even after all that training??
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even after all that training. lssj is basically a mutated ssj2. so what you're asking is if goku managed to surpass an entire form, plus some, in those seven years.
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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Oh, I see...
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he did, but as an ssj? not on your life. He does lose just as badly as the power margin would be the same between him and after the zenkai he should have gotten from the senzu bean in movie 8. One of the reasons the haxxed move worked, also an early indicator of the major power boost their rivalry gives them. Goku plus vegeta>>>everyones elses power in the movie for that reason, even the combined power ups of the other zfighters, who imo are actually weaker than their anime selves.
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Ninjajp247
Sep 17 2011, 05:12 AM
One of the reasons the haxxed move worked, also an early indicator of the major power boost their rivalry gives them. Goku plus vegeta>>>everyones elses power in the movie for that reason, even the combined power ups of the other zfighters, who imo are actually weaker than their anime selves.
Also Goku punched in the same place Broly was stabbed as a baby. He exploited a weakness that Broly didn't know he had, and it ripped Broly to shreds.
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Sep 17 2011, 05:39 AM
Ninjajp247
Sep 17 2011, 05:12 AM
One of the reasons the haxxed move worked, also an early indicator of the major power boost their rivalry gives them. Goku plus vegeta>>>everyones elses power in the movie for that reason, even the combined power ups of the other zfighters, who imo are actually weaker than their anime selves.
Also Goku punched in the same place Broly was stabbed as a baby. He exploited a weakness that Broly didn't know he had, and it ripped Broly to shreds.
It's debatable whether that's where Broly was stabbed or not.
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AllStarSuperman
Sep 17 2011, 05:39 AM
Ninjajp247
Sep 17 2011, 05:12 AM
One of the reasons the haxxed move worked, also an early indicator of the major power boost their rivalry gives them. Goku plus vegeta>>>everyones elses power in the movie for that reason, even the combined power ups of the other zfighters, who imo are actually weaker than their anime selves.
Also Goku punched in the same place Broly was stabbed as a baby. He exploited a weakness that Broly didn't know he had, and it ripped Broly to shreds.
It's debatable whether that's where Broly was stabbed or not.


lol the shadow of the knife pretty much went straight through broly in the middle.

Broly wins this. Goku with the amazing benefit of the After life training would still lose.
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Sep 17 2011, 06:58 AM
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Sep 17 2011, 05:39 AM
Ninjajp247
Sep 17 2011, 05:12 AM
One of the reasons the haxxed move worked, also an early indicator of the major power boost their rivalry gives them. Goku plus vegeta>>>everyones elses power in the movie for that reason, even the combined power ups of the other zfighters, who imo are actually weaker than their anime selves.
Also Goku punched in the same place Broly was stabbed as a baby. He exploited a weakness that Broly didn't know he had, and it ripped Broly to shreds.
It's debatable whether that's where Broly was stabbed or not.


lol the shadow of the knife pretty much went straight through broly in the middle.

Broly wins this. Goku with the amazing benefit of the After life training would still lose.
Okay, post a picture showing this exactness. :=]:
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I couldn't find a picture but i did find this video, and it totally debunks the whole weak spot argument. I retract my earlier post about Broly being punched where he was stabbed.
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I think Goku's punch was too low, personally. That's why I like the theory that he was overloading with his own ki and Goku just busted him.
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Goku still lose the battle, but MSSJ wins.
I have LSSJ's PL is about 18,000,000,000 - 20,000,000,000 and Goku's about 10,000,000,000.
MSSJ Goku's PL is about 20,000,000,000 - 22,000,000,000.
Goku loses this battle, unless he turns MSSJ or the thread creator changes it to MSSJ.
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Sep 17 2011, 10:11 AM
Goku still lose the battle, but MSSJ wins.
I have LSSJ's PL is about 18,000,000,000 - 20,000,000,000 and Goku's about 10,000,000,000.
MSSJ Goku's PL is about 20,000,000,000 - 22,000,000,000.
Goku loses this battle, unless he turns MSSJ or the thread creator changes it to MSSJ.
ssj and mssj are the same form. mssj is just when the saiyan gets used to the form, so it doesn't stress them out any more.

there are only 3 differences between an mssj and a regular ssj:

1. no energy drain.

ssj didn't have a major energy drain to begin with, but mssj eliminates it completely

2. no stress:

the ssj form causes the saiyan to become restless, and heightens aggression. mssj does not cause this, because the saiyan has mentally adapted to the form.

3. can suppress power.

regular ssj has to stay at or near full power at all times, or revert to base. mssj can use any portion of their power, even less than their base power, and still maintain the form.

other than those 3 differences, ssj and mssj are exactly the same. goku would have the exact same fight on his hands against broly. he'd still get stomped.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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supersaqer
Sep 17 2011, 10:11 AM
Goku still lose the battle, but MSSJ wins.
I have LSSJ's PL is about 18,000,000,000 - 20,000,000,000 and Goku's about 10,000,000,000.
MSSJ Goku's PL is about 20,000,000,000 - 22,000,000,000.
Goku loses this battle, unless he turns MSSJ or the thread creator changes it to MSSJ.
Broli stomped MSSJ Son Goku, how is he on par with LSSJ Broli in your list?
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